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Kratom Trees
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Some images of my trees over the years.


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#2
Simply beautiful
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#3
Looks like you are in a tropical micro-clime. Nice trees how old are they and what is your harvest rate that is sustainable with out harming your plants? How was the potency as they matured..could they follow a tea tree harvest method to pull new leaf off the "table" while the plant keeps maturing. So many questions. Green house vs grow tent, fertilizers and I saw you have harvested leaf in another post! I hope you dont mind me picking your brain, I am quite intrigued.
“Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats.” HL Menken
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#4
By all means please do. There is still extremely scant information on the growth and harvesting protocols regarding this plant. This is something the AKA and myself are working on personally with a local university.

The material is extremely active. I'm even surprised honestly. The method you describe picking on a needed basis works very well, but i'm also at the point there is way more leaf on a single tree than we could pull off in a full working week. Seriously. i had no idea how hard it was just to pick leaf from a branch. We pick it in such a way that leaves the growth tips alone and prefer only removing leaf that is ready to come off.. after a while you can feel the difference in the resistance and can pick out the leaf that will naturally shed anyway.

They have had very little in the ways of intervention, even watering has been left to their own devices. The water table is merely feet below ground, and they have tapped into the same water my well pulls. Which is rich in dissolved minerals, interestingly enough despite it's high PH the trees have not shown any adverse effects at all. Considering it grew in a rain forest and the soil there is almost always acidic it is an interesting development.

These trees have went through snaps of almost freezing temps but only for mere hours.. if that. The area is completely saturated with water as it is not been drained for roadways and housing developments, and it maintains a constant 70+ temp year round.

I have a closet full of boxes and trash bags of dried leaf. It's a nice problem to have. Thanks for the questions, I very much enjoy sharing my experiences with this very interesting and rewarding marvel.
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Careful to what you agree to...I really do have a ton of questions and will move some of it to your leaf thread as well. So how old are your trees now? I think it was a wise choice to let them grow in a normal manner to see the natural growth pattern. Interesting that they have seem to adapted to the water table as well. They seem more durable than I was led to believe. How is the humidity is that as important as we are led to believe or is it more of the temp range. As a evergreen they don't drop leaves all at once but how is the leaf drop cycle you mentioned...removing leaves that are ready as it were. I would be interested in some close ups of growing tips (when you had time of course) and some thoughts on the root system. Sorry I warned you.... I am going to pick your brain dry. You can still escape.
“Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats.” HL Menken
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#6
I understand the anxiety.. out of the dozens of people that have tried to track me down he is the only one that seems to be truly trying to come at it from an objective angle, and that's the most I can really hope for. I really don't take sharing my experiences lightly, but I also can't really live with myself if I didn't try to show what Kratom really is, and what it isn't.

The trees are cloned from stock that is probably decades old now. I've had them a total of 6 odd years I believe, little over two of those was spent in large pots with a rigged watering system, that kept the trees saturated through out the entire day.

I believe once they get through the toddler stage they become rather adaptive and can tolerate conditions that would of killed it if it was sitting in a small pot. When they are young they are very suspect able to aphids, wind, drying out, root rot, trunk rot, leaf rot, and of course freezing. For every tree that stands outside 9 of it's clones did not make it that far. The rate has declined as my experience and the local climate allowed. As adults they are very effective at disabling pests of all shapes, not even caterpillars can take more than a bite or two before dropping off as lizard bait.
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(01-22-2018, 04:50 AM)TheAegis Wrote: Looks like you are in a tropical micro-clime. Nice trees how old are they and what is your harvest rate that is sustainable with out harming your plants? How was the potency as they matured..could they follow a tea tree harvest method to pull new leaf off the "table" while the plant keeps maturing. So many questions. Green house vs grow tent, fertilizers and I saw you have harvested leaf in another post! I hope you dont mind me picking your brain, I am quite intrigued.

Those ARE INCREDIBLE...  DROOL
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#8
(01-23-2018, 06:56 AM)will Wrote: By all means please do. There is still extremely scant information on the growth and harvesting protocols regarding this plant. This is something the AKA and myself are working on personally with a local university.

The material is extremely active. I'm even surprised honestly. The method you describe picking on a needed basis works very well, but i'm also at the point there is way more leaf on a single tree than we could pull off in a full working week. Seriously. i had no idea how hard it was just to pick leaf from a branch. We pick it in such a way that leaves the growth tips alone and prefer only removing leaf that is ready to come off.. after a while you can feel the difference in the resistance and can pick out the leaf that will naturally shed anyway.

They have had very little in the ways of intervention, even watering has been left to their own devices. The water table is merely feet below ground, and they have tapped into the same water my well pulls. Which is rich in dissolved minerals, interestingly enough despite it's high PH the trees have not shown any adverse effects at all. Considering it grew in a rain forest and the soil there is almost always acidic it is an interesting development.

These trees have went through snaps of almost freezing temps but only for mere hours.. if that. The area is completely saturated with water as it is not been drained for roadways and housing developments, and it maintains a constant 70+ temp year round.

I have a closet full of boxes and trash bags of dried leaf. It's a nice problem to have. Thanks for the questions, I very much enjoy sharing my experiences with this very interesting and rewarding marvel.

I have a" mama rifat" for all that means... I was always proud of her size..... until I saw yours!! Those are absolutely fantastic
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#9
I hope that means we will get to see your mama rifat. We all love looking at pictures here.
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(02-13-2018, 11:41 PM)will Wrote: I hope that means we will get to see your mama rifat. We all love looking at pictures here.

Yes please do post any pictures or information you have. Is it inside or an outside grow? Would love to see your cultivation thoughts.
“Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats.” HL Menken
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